Minutes from Meeting about Monthly Ubuntu IRC meet Convened at 2012-02-20 17:33:33.015485 by kbmonkey in #ubuntu-za on freenode Minutes ======= [17:33:33] STARTED (kbmonkey) [17:39:34] TOPIC: Review Previous minutes (kbmonkey) [17:42:27] AGREED: kbmonkey to email maia for CT Ubuntu hour pics (kbmonkey) [17:45:38] TOPIC: Upcoming Ubuntu Hours (kbmonkey) [17:54:50] TOPIC: Upcoming global jam (kbmonkey) [18:08:23] IDEA: email the list about the Global jam for 2-4 March -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam (kbmonkey) [18:10:58] TOPIC: Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April 2012) (kbmonkey) [18:17:25] TOPIC: Linux Studies -- http://linux-studies.za.net (kbmonkey) [18:21:12] TOPIC: Ubuntu Experience: Send in your stories (kbmonkey) [18:34:03] TOPIC: Order Ubuntu CD's (kbmonkey) [18:39:01] IDEA: Have install fests once our new release CD's arrive (kbmonkey) [18:40:18] AGREED: kbmonkey/maiatoday to order Ubuntu discs (kbmonkey) [18:41:56] TOPIC: Team Reports needs a volunteer (kbmonkey) [18:56:16] TOPIC: Monthly meets clash with SULUG beer meets (kbmonkey) [19:03:34] TOPIC: Next meeting chair (19 March 2012) (kbmonkey) [19:06:32] ENDED (kbmonkey) Present ======= * Raoul Snyman (superfly) * Bill Cairns (POps) * Henk Joubert (hjoubert) * Stefano Rivera (tumbleweed) * nlsthzn * drussell * Frans de Waal (Meesterarend1) * psydroid * ScorpKing * Wesley Werner (kbmonkey) * Tonberry * Miles Sharpe (Kilos) * Gustav H Meyer (inetpro) * Squirm * Graham Poulter (garaman_) * Hendrik van Wyk (Tonberry_aao) * zeref * Bruce Pieterse (octoquad) * oupamster (plustwo) * zeref-Lap * Ian Sharpe (WOLFEYES) Raw Log ======= [17:33:33] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly Ubuntu IRC meet [17:33:33] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:33:42] * Kilos dont feel so bad anymore [17:33:50] lol [17:34:08] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [17:34:08] inetpro: Done [17:34:09] Maaz, i am Hendrik van Wyk [17:34:09] Tonberry_aao: Righto [17:34:12] For those new here, tell Maaz our bot your name like so: [17:34:12] Maaz, I am Bruce Pieterse [17:34:12] octoquad: Done [17:34:14] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [17:34:14] Kilos: Alrighty [17:34:16] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:34:16] superfly: Alrighty [17:34:17] Maaz: I am Wesley Werner [17:34:17] kbmonkey: Yessir [17:34:34] I am oupamster [17:34:36] hmm he be a sir [17:34:42] Maaz: I am Frans de Waal [17:34:42] Meesterarend1: Alrighty [17:34:45] Maaz, I'm Hannes Coetzee [17:34:45] ScorpKing: What? [17:34:55] * ScorpKing waves [17:34:55] Maaz: I am Stefano Rivera [17:34:55] tumbleweed: Alrighty [17:35:05] plustwo: just put Maaz in front [17:35:14] ScorpKing: Maaz doesn't read contractions, lol [17:35:28] Mazzini: I am oupamster [17:35:36] * inetpro lol [17:36:12] Welcome everyone, to our monthly irc meeting [17:36:13] kbmonkey: sorted it out in pm [17:36:21] Maaz: I'm oupamster [17:36:21] plustwo: Excuse me? [17:36:35] plustwo, I am [17:36:43] k [17:36:46] lol, sorry all... bath and bed for me :( hoped to catch the first half... cheers [17:36:56] toods nlsthzn [17:37:01] sleep tight [17:37:14] grrr [17:37:21] Maaz: I am oupamster [17:37:21] plustwo: Alrighty [17:37:22] Tonight we have an action-packed agenda. [17:37:37] [17:37:55] garaman, welcome to the meeting login please [17:38:07] [17:38:17] welcome psydroid [17:38:21] hi psydroid you made it [17:38:29] login [17:38:32] kbmonkey: I guess not everyone has seen the agenda at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20120220#Agenda [17:38:39] tell maaz who you are: "Maaz, I am " [17:39:19] confluency, you here?? [17:39:34] Maaz: topic Review Previous minutes [17:39:34] Current Topic: Review Previous minutes [17:39:40] kbmonkey: just yell when you need me, I'm busy upgrading a site, so I'm partially distracted [17:39:52] I am Graham Poulter [17:39:53] sure superfly, I will ping you in that case :) [17:40:01] Maaz, I am Graham Poulter [17:40:01] garaman_: Yessir [17:40:41] our only point in the prev minutes is the Ubuntu hours. How did the CT hour go? [17:40:54] Are there any photos for us to put on the site? [17:41:00] lol ping the fly [17:41:05] hmm, http://ubuntu-za.org/ is out of date [17:41:08] (nothing too embrassing please) [17:41:15] It went well, we had 8 folks... maiatoday took some photos [17:41:58] okay I will email maia to send some nice pics, we can put them on the site later [17:42:26] kbmonkey: they are on her blog [17:42:27] Maaz: agreed kbmonkey to email maia for CT Ubuntu hour pics [17:42:27] Agreed: kbmonkey to email maia for CT Ubuntu hour pics [17:42:36] both her blog post and my blog post are linked in the agenda [17:42:40] kbmonkey: superfly just blogged about it http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za/archive/2012/02/20/successful-ubuntu-hour-cape-town-held-11th-february [17:42:51] oh they are? okay even better [17:42:56] there's a link to the photos [17:44:09] wonderful. sorry I missed that, haven't been reading blogs much lately [17:44:51] one request can everyone give their blog addy and site url to Maaz [17:45:10] Maaz, superfly.blog [17:45:10] Kilos: superfly.blog is http://blog.saturnlaboratories.co.za [17:45:15] like that [17:45:28] which leads to our next, topic, upcoming events (lets shift to ubuntu hour first) [17:45:38] Maaz: topic Upcoming Ubuntu Hours [17:45:38] Current Topic: Upcoming Ubuntu Hours [17:45:46] Maaz, octoquad.blog [17:45:46] octoquad: Huh? [17:46:04] Maaz, octoquad.blog http://www.otq.za.net/ [17:46:04] octoquad: Excuse me? [17:46:08] how do we set our blogs with Maaz , Kilos ? [17:46:10] help here please lol [17:46:15] [17:46:24] one needs to say maaz nick blog is [17:46:42] maaz octoquad blog is http://www.otq.za.net/ [17:46:42] octoquad: One learns a new thing every day [17:46:43] octoquad: you can "/msg Maaz help" to see what all she can do [17:46:51] sweet [17:46:59] you forgot the [17:47:01] maaz octoquad.blog [17:47:01] octoquad: Sorry... [17:47:17] ill do it [17:47:30] Who is keen to have an Ubuntu hour in your local area? [17:47:47] anyone from durban? [17:47:47] Maaz, octoquad .blog is http://www.otq.za.net/ [17:47:47] Kilos: Got it [17:47:58] Ta Kilos :) [17:47:59] octoquad, done [17:48:04] yw [17:48:15] Maaz, garaman.blog is http://blog.grahampoulter.com [17:48:15] garaman_: Got it [17:49:01] The idea behind Ubuntu Hour is to go out and meet somewhere public, with Ubuntu logos or stickers on your laptop -- [17:49:08] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour [17:49:17] [17:49:20] Where can I get stickers? [17:50:00] I'd also like stickers :) [17:50:02] kbmonkey, ask maia [17:50:12] find it: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718 [17:50:21] she had some made some time back [17:51:29] I scoped out the venues and think I'll have an Ubuntu Hour this weekend, in tiny Pietermaritzburg :) [17:51:33] I also have a bunch of stickers that drubin made some years back, shiny "Ubuntu Inside" stickers - will bring them next meetup [17:51:33] [17:52:54] no one else? [17:53:09] kbmonkey, maybe someone has them and can mail the picks to the list then everyone can print their own [17:53:38] those with colour printers that is [17:54:12] Email to the mail list for ubuntu hour stagings [17:54:36] okay so next is the jam... mmm [17:54:50] Maaz: topic Upcoming global jam [17:54:50] Current Topic: Upcoming global jam [17:55:36] good idea Kilos. I think the logos are also on the ubuntu webiste [17:55:45] ah [17:56:05] the Global Jam is 2-4 March [17:56:12] the page is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [17:56:12] just nothing thats a meg a pick [17:57:11] aha, I added that agenda item [17:57:27] we had a fairly successful small jam in cape town, last cycle [17:57:34] yes thanks to tumbleweed for adding our shiny agenda items :D [17:57:34] it'd be nice to do something like that again [17:57:53] I wanted to do something while highvoltage was here, but I didn't organise it... [17:58:10] anyone feel like making it happen? [17:58:21] I'd like to be more involved in the Jam myself [17:58:50] I'm limited to online activity, but that's still okay [17:58:57] sure [17:59:27] question: does the Jam work on the latest release? [17:59:46] the development release [17:59:50] although we could do anything [18:00:23] that's where many of us fall flat [18:00:14] I see one of the requirements is a decent net connection [18:00:44] we can still help with translations [18:00:49] * tumbleweed is happy to host a tiny jam doing some packaging stuff [18:01:01] yes, translations! [18:01:04] Maaz: I am Henk Joubert [18:01:04] hjoubert: Righto [18:00:58] but it'd be nice if we did other things too [18:01:24] I'd like to do bug hunting too. [18:01:48] hjoubert: hi. (Henk is also in Cape Town) [18:01:59] one of the items say Answer questions on askubuntu.com [18:02:01] I would be happy to help however I can [18:02:19] that helps new users and builds awareness [18:02:29] watch out, askubuntu is addictive :) [18:02:30] the link is http://meta.askubuntu.com/questions/2565/how-can-we-participate-in-the-ubuntu-global-jam [18:02:43] the stackexcahnge range of sites are all addictive! [18:03:11] great quality answers there, i encourage all new users to sign up there [18:03:20] anyway, sounds like there is some interest [18:03:44] does anyone want to try and organise it? (I was hoping to avoid doing that myself) [18:04:01] I recon we promote the jm on our loco site, maybe even hack up a neat ZA-esque logo for the jam [18:04:59] do you mean organizing real-life meetups for the jam tumbleweed ? [18:05:27] kbmonkey: I mean the real-life component of the jam. The online bit should be straightforward enough [18:06:57] the simplest way, is to mail the list about this to see who is keen in which areas [18:07:08] probably [18:07:22] the list has more eyes than irc [18:07:32] yeah [18:08:23] Maaz: idea email the list about the Global jam for 2-4 March -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [18:08:23] Idea recorded: email the list about the Global jam for 2-4 March -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam [18:09:02] anything to add? [18:10:00] everyone is busy or shy :) [18:10:07] hehe [18:10:25] beer evening scheduling [18:10:32] okay, next... [18:10:50] both...maybe just not much to add :-X [18:10:58] Maaz: topic Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April 2012) [18:10:58] Current Topic: Precise Pangolin release parties (26 April 2012) [18:11:21] [18:11:23] thats okay Meesterarend1, all details we can chat about on irc in the week or via the mailing list [18:12:13] mmm, it would be awesome to have a really visible release party, but it takes lots of effort :-( [18:12:18] So I'm keen to get a copy of this release, and think a durban release party is called for [18:12:33] [18:12:41] like not a bunch of people rocking up at a restaurant, but like a mini computer fair or something [18:13:04] kbmonkey, guys like william on the lists get involved there [18:13:05] I love that idea! [18:13:27] * inetpro is hoping that somebody will arrange another release party at Irene or even closer to Pretoria [18:13:38] [18:13:47] hi POps [18:13:51] just not sure whether I'll attend [18:14:11] are we going to do one in cape town or stellenbosch this time? [18:14:16] I'm not sure either, it's still a way off though [18:14:21] Hi there - wondered if I was alone! [18:14:26] kbmonkey: true [18:14:45] no POps you in the ubuntu monthly meeting [18:14:48] this is just to get us to think about it so long [18:14:51] welcome [18:14:53] i vote stellenbosch but only because it is convenient for me [18:14:54] hi POps [18:15:21] Thanks - I am in the right place - I just arrived in a period of complete silence [18:15:37] POps, you know how to sign in? [18:15:49] I like visiting stellenbosch for release parties if someone there can organise it [18:15:49] I thought I was? [18:15:52] anybody doing something in Bloemfontein? [18:15:53] kbmonkey: I suggest we keep talking about it on the ML and on IRC, next time we may have a date or two [18:16:09] POps: we're in the middle of our monthly meeting :-) [18:16:13] Tonberry: if you want, contact those in your area and ask :) [18:16:13] type in maaz I am name [18:16:19] POps: so the perfect time to pop in :-) [18:16:26] will do [18:16:36] okay, next... [18:16:43] wow we have a nice agenda tonight [18:16:46] I came in because of the monthly meeting! [18:17:05] great POps ty [18:17:25] Maaz: topic Linux Studies -- http://linux-studies.za.net [18:17:25] Current Topic: Linux Studies -- http://linux-studies.za.net [18:17:26] ty? [18:17:35] thank you [18:17:55] POps: type "Maaz: I am FirstName Surname" so that your name appears in the minutes [18:18:01] For mentions, some of us peeps here are doing self-study for Linux [18:18:22] anyone is welcome to join, you don't have to write any exams at the end if you just want to learn with us [18:18:23] Maaz: I am Bill Cairns [18:18:23] POps: Done [18:18:29] POps: Maaz is our scribe for the evening [18:18:38] Hi maaz [18:18:55] POps: Maaz also makes virtual coffee, don't ask for tea though! [18:19:04] Beer? [18:19:05] hehe [18:19:29] ask him [18:19:34] if you are interest, have questions, pop into the #linux-studies irc channel and poke us a bit ;) [18:20:08] next up, we have... [18:20:10] kbmonkey: I think you started a great initiative, well done [18:20:19] oh kbmonkey not just tuesday nights [18:20:27] thanks inetpro :) [18:20:36] [18:20:51] evening drussell [18:20:59] wanna join the meet [18:21:08] drubin: welcome to our monthly meeting [18:21:12] Maaz: topic Ubuntu Experience: Send in your stories [18:21:12] Current Topic: Ubuntu Experience: Send in your stories [18:21:25] drubin, is gone [18:21:40] Kilos: hmm... [18:21:44] i will do one [18:22:08] doesnt quassel show he is grayed out [18:22:13] xchat rocks [18:22:14] Send in my stories to whom? Where would they be published? [18:22:26] A quick idea: If you are new, or a long time Ubuntu user, why not send in your stories. [18:22:29] We can put them on the http://ubuntu-za.org site [18:22:39] Kilos: hiya, just here briefly :o) [18:22:55] well POps, that is what we can decide now :) [18:23:20] the ML (mailing list) is a good start for sending in stories. [18:23:48] POps, have you got a blog [18:23:51] kbmonkey: s/a good start/always a good start/ [18:23:55] Sorry - I am not trying to be difficult - but is there a good distribution source to which we can send our "stories"? [18:24:17] If you feel adventurous, log in to the local wiki and write your experience there [18:24:22] Blog - no but I publish quite a bit in local papers [18:25:01] the ubuntuforums have a experience section too, but it's nice to hear from our ZA locals [18:25:07] Wikis are good - but who reads them except the converted? [18:25:15] POps: interesting, what papers? [18:25:22] good point POps [18:25:41] the wiki isn't for reading as such, but a store to which we can link [18:25:51] I live in the platteland - local papers [18:25:54] blogs are good if google can find them [18:26:04] okay, blogs and email [18:26:20] i had over 3500 visit mine before i took it off [18:26:31] POps: so you are looking for stories to publish? [18:26:58] Example - I read Poplar Mechanics occasionally. I see that they have just finished a poll on Windows v Mac. No mention of Linux. [18:27:12] if your blog is listed on our page, all your posts will feed through to http://ubuntu-za.org/planet [18:27:13] I gor there too late [18:27:24] gor = got [18:27:28] who can we ask to add blogs to planet? [18:27:38] gor := got [18:27:45] kbmonkey: me [18:28:24] ^ superfly that is the guru to ask if you want your blog listed on http://ubuntu-za.org/planet :D [18:28:48] okay before we get off track... [18:28:51] anything else to add? [18:28:58] Anyone have any ideas about where to publish a blog where general readers might catch them? [18:29:14] blogspot.com [18:29:17] [18:29:29] hi WOLFEYES sign in [18:29:36] POps: not sure, probably get better hits posting within a community of interest [18:29:45] [18:29:51] try http://planet.ubuntu.com/ [18:30:16] Maaz, Ian Sharpe is here [18:30:16] WOLFEYES: One learns a new thing every day [18:30:21] lol [18:30:25] ha ha ha [18:30:35] hi WOLFEYES [18:30:38] welcome [18:30:44] say maaz I am name [18:30:45] heya guys [18:30:54] You can also use Posterous - https://posterous.com/ or Tumblr - http://tumblr.com/ [18:31:00] Maaz, I am Ian Sharpe [18:31:00] WOLFEYES: Okay [18:31:03] thats a good question POps. we need to find out... [18:31:12] i liked the previous answer lol [18:31:20] personally I struggle to read blogs regularly [18:32:07] the idea is to make it findable by google then all kinda peeps read it [18:32:31] the idea is to spart interest in ubuntu [18:32:36] spark [18:33:04] kbmonkey: one hour gone since the start of our meeting [18:33:20] sjoe [18:34:03] http://ubuntu-za.org/planet is a good idea but would be nice if it had a better way to organize posts [18:34:03] thanks inetpro [18:34:03] Maaz: topic Order Ubuntu CD's [18:34:03] Current Topic: Order Ubuntu CD's [18:34:03] moving on... [18:34:04] CD's are ordered by the loco contacts right? [18:34:51] kbmonkey: BTW, I'm not trying to rush you :-) [18:34:51] This is a reminder to those folks to place orders for the Precise Pangolin release [18:35:02] I'm sure we still have enough time [18:35:13] I know inetpro :) its just good form and practice to be timely [18:35:23] :) [18:35:43] we slow down as our brains tire, he he [18:35:57] is anyone here a loco contact? [18:36:04] IIRC maia was one? [18:36:27] so who would like a CD/DVD? [18:36:34] me me me! [18:36:36] PLEASE [18:36:44] oops sorry [18:36:51] * Tonberry will take a box... [18:36:56] at least a couple, so we can distribute them [18:37:00] [18:37:10] Tonberry: yikes! A whole box? [18:37:11] university gobbles them up at a insane rate [18:37:15] do they ship before the release party dates? [18:37:19] one would be nice as well [18:37:50] * kbmonkey doesn't need to keep them if I can make ISO's fro mthem [18:38:03] normally release parties are a bit after a release [18:38:06] lol yes and one for me too please, [18:38:11] kbmonkey: unfortunately they take a lot longer to arrive here [18:38:18] inetpro: I have need of about 5 cds and some server cd's too [18:38:30] should be 2 weeks if ordered timely [18:38:42] in that case inetpro, we can have release parties, and install fest parties when they arrive [18:38:54] Is there a big difference in the server CD and normal CD? [18:38:58] kbmonkey: that is not a bad idea [18:39:01] Maaz: idea Have install fests once our new release CD's arrive [18:39:01] Idea recorded: Have install fests once our new release CD's arrive [18:39:04] between* [18:39:22] WOLFEYES, yip [18:39:29] kbmonkey: will you arrange with maiatoday? [18:39:36] server has not desktop [18:39:43] Ok one of both then for me please [18:39:49] yes inetpro I will ask maia about ordering discs... [18:40:18] Maaz: agreed kbmonkey/maiatoday to order Ubuntu discs [18:40:18] Agreed: kbmonkey/maiatoday to order Ubuntu discs [18:40:21] okay next... [18:40:34] I'm not sure whether we have anybody recording orders at the moment [18:40:35] Maaz: Team Reports needs a volunteer [18:40:35] kbmonkey: Huh? [18:40:53] recording orders? [18:41:35] kbmonkey - sorry i have been away for a bit. Yes, i am a local contact in Limpopo. Not much happens here ... [18:41:46] kbmonkey: someone needs to pick up recording our monthly reports again [18:41:56] Maaz: topic Team Reports needs a volunteer [18:41:56] Current Topic: Team Reports needs a volunteer [18:41:59] maia used to do it as well [18:42:49] team reports are found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports [18:42:57] is there anyone here who would like to help? [18:43:11] What needs to be done exactly? [18:44:03] I think this task is also like a marketing job for our LoCo [18:44:09] WOLFEYES: see here for what team reports are about: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports\ [18:44:21] I understand the keeping of the records for orders but how do we know who is ordering, do they mail us or what? [18:44:22] indeed it is inetpro [18:44:33] correct link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TeamReports [18:44:34] ok, goes to look [18:44:55] it is a montly report to say what we did, and mentions events and meetings and stuff like that [18:45:02] a summary of our activity [18:45:21] thanks octoquad. ghost button presses [18:45:33] no prob [18:45:52] if anyone is willing, I will help. [18:46:45] I think we need some new energised helpers who are willing to become official ubuntu members [18:46:58] I am willing to take up the task, on condition someone chair for a little while :) [18:47:06] which is an upcoming item... [18:47:12] yes inetpro :D [18:47:25] somebody who can also attend regular official LoCo meetings [18:47:38] kbmonkey: are you a member yet? [18:47:58] is that through registering on launchpad? [18:48:17] I'm looking for how you become a member. [18:48:23] * kbmonkey ashamed I forgot [18:48:41] kbmonkey: anybody can do it [18:48:56] What is a LoCo meeting exactly please? [18:49:08] I suggest you start chatting with old hands like drubin, morgs and highvoltage [18:49:35] Cheerrs all [18:49:40] I'm sure drubin would be willing to continue but he has become rather busy in his life [18:49:49] cheers POps go well [18:49:52] eish [18:49:58] and so have all the others [18:50:12] i think drubin is pretty much over it [18:50:39] even tumbleweed and others around here can help you meet the right people [18:50:43] I wanted to volunteer but I pretty much sit in the same boat. [18:51:35] * tumbleweed hears his name [18:51:41] we can also chat about this on a day to day basis on this channel [18:52:15] [18:52:22] kbmonkey: you become a member by being nominated by other members for doing awesmoe stuff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership [18:53:12] lol [18:54:10] anybody interested in team reporting? [18:54:41] I will report on this month, will include a request to the list for this [18:55:12] maybe maia will do it again after her exams in march are over [18:55:13] thanks tumbleweed [18:55:29] kbmonkey: I'll help where I can [18:55:36] ok Kilos I can ask her about that, thanks oom [18:55:42] yw [18:55:45] meanwhile I will do February [18:56:00] * kbmonkey needs coffee [18:56:11] +1 [18:56:16] Maaz: topic Monthly meets clash with SULUG beer meets [18:56:16] Current Topic: Monthly meets clash with SULUG beer meets [18:56:42] maybe just change our day [18:56:51] a topic of debate, as it involves beer nowhere near where I am ;) [18:57:03] Tonberry_aao: you are there now? [18:57:06] or plan meetings further ahead [18:57:06] SULUG beer meets? [18:57:41] maybe Tonberry can tell us what the beer meets are about? not too clear myself [18:57:51] or is there a pre planner meeting schedule for ubuntu_za? [18:58:04] bunch of linux geeks drinking beer [18:58:55] Tonberry: when and where does this happen? [18:58:56] we meet on the 3rd Monday each month Tonberry [18:59:07] ok [18:59:17] is suspect the sulug schedule is similar [18:59:18] [18:59:21] is that the beer meet schedule too? or is it more ad-hoc [18:59:25] hmmm [18:59:44]