Minutes from Meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting Convened at 2012-05-21 17:44:22.266443 by nuvolari in #ubuntu-za on freenode Minutes ======= [17:44:22] STARTED (nuvolari) [17:46:23] TOPIC: Review previous minutes (nuvolari) [17:59:27] TOPIC: review minutes (maiatoday) [18:00:08] TOPIC: feedback from release parites (maiatoday) [18:03:21] AGREED: maiatoday ask for release party pics for pretoria party on mailing list (maiatoday) [18:06:49] TOPIC: ubuntu hours (maiatoday) [18:19:44] TOPIC: certification update (nuvolari) [18:33:46] TOPIC: feedback on cd's (nuvolari) [18:39:44] AGREED: maiatoday will find out on the mailing list who wants cds once they get here (maiatoday) [18:51:45] ENDED (nuvolari) Present ======= * Johan Mynhardt (nuvolari) * Wikus van dyk (mazal) * Hendrik van Wyk (Tonberry) * tumbleweed * Greg Eames (magespawn) * queery (queery1985) * Gareth Cawood (Banlam) * Lunga Mthembu (zeref) * Guest21740 * Maia Grotepass (maiatoday) * Miles Sharpe (Kilos) * Raoul Snyman (superfly) * Squirm * smile (smile) * jp meijers (Kerbero) * Bruce Pieterse (octoquad) * Nicholas (koiosify) * queery * Sunil Janki (psydroid) Raw Log ======= [17:44:22] Maaz: start meeting about Monthly IRC Meeting [17:44:22] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [17:44:33] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [17:44:33] superfly: Done [17:44:35] maaz, I am Gareth Cawood [17:44:35] Banlam: Done [17:44:40] Maaz: I am Johan Mynhardt [17:44:40] nuvolari: Okay [17:44:48] Maaz, I am Miles Sharpe [17:44:48] Kilos: Alrighty [17:44:58] Maaz: I am Bruce Pieterse [17:44:58] octoquad: Done [17:45:11] "i am, therefore i am" [17:45:16] Maaz: i am jp meijers [17:45:16] Kerbero: Yessir [17:45:16] ha ha [17:45:28] I assume we must all give our name ? [17:45:42] yip [17:45:51] Maaz: I am Wikus van dyk [17:45:51] mazal: Yessir [17:45:58] no nom de plumes [17:46:11] wikus vd merwe [17:46:12] :P [17:46:18] cocooncrash, are you joining us? [17:46:23] Maaz: topic Review previous minutes [17:46:23] Current Topic: Review previous minutes [17:47:04] hi psydroid sign in with maaz please [17:47:12] if I can find the previous minutes we can review it :P [17:47:39] nuvolari: dunno about the minutes, but here: http://churchm.ag/harvard-athletes-perform-call-me-maybe-video/ [17:48:18] hi Kilos [17:48:33] Kilos, how do I do that? [17:48:53] [17:48:54] [17:48:56] just type in maaz I am "name" [17:49:04] hiya maiatoday [17:49:11] lol superfly [17:49:18] sorry I am late people [17:49:20] hi superfly nuvolari Kerbero maiatoday [17:49:28] no problem maiatoday [17:49:31] welcome [17:49:31] Maaz I am Maia Grotepass [17:49:31] maiatoday: Yessir [17:50:00] ooh, pretty cool video [17:50:04] nuvolari: http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-za/406/detail/ [17:50:13] * mazal wonders if Maaz can make coffee :P [17:50:14] Maaz I am Sunil Janki [17:50:14] psydroid: Righto [17:50:56] Owkkuri, are you joining us? [17:52:08] to be honest, I'm a bit lost [17:52:32] the meeting has started? [17:52:41] ye [17:52:56] nuvolari: what are you still looking for the previous meeting minutes? [17:52:57] but need a little help maiatoday :P pleeze [17:53:05] ok no problem [17:53:07] where are we [17:53:24] ok meeting minutes [17:53:27] nuvolari: oops, got my links crossed :-/ [17:54:18] no problem superfly [17:54:30] http://maaz.mene.za.net/logs/meetings/freenode-%23ubuntu-za/2012-04-16-17-36-51.html [17:54:39] did you start the meeting with Maaz? [17:54:41] maybe I should pay better attention before chairing a meeting [17:54:47] maiatoday: affirmative [17:54:52] ok good [17:54:55] and started topic review minutes [17:55:00] so are we reviewing minutes? [17:55:14] in theory [17:55:33] ok [17:55:39] also we don't have an agenda [17:55:46] so lets make one quickly: [17:55:47] 1. [17:55:51] review minuets [17:56:00] 2: feedback from release parties [17:56:07] 3: ubuntu hours [17:56:20] 4: certification update [17:56:25] anything else? [17:56:40] maaz help me with meeting [17:56:40] maiatoday: I'm afraid I don't know what you are asking about. Ask "what can you do" to browse my features. [17:56:48] maaz can you do meetings [17:57:03] maaz what can you do [17:57:03] maiatoday: I can help you with: looking things up, remembering things, delivering messages, decisions, games, monitoring things, browsing the internet, conversions, silly fun stuff, calculations, system administration, software development and south african stuff. Ask me "help me with ..." for more details. [17:58:23] so any news on ubuntu CDs? [17:58:33] maiatoday: is there any reason why I'm not in the meeting team list? [17:58:50] I can't create a new meeting entry [17:58:52] 5: feedback on cds [17:58:58] no no reason nuvolari [17:59:03] I don't control the list [17:59:15] who is the controller of the Maaz list? [17:59:20] are we going to discuss launch parties? [17:59:27] Maaz topic review minutes [17:59:27] Current Topic: review minutes [17:59:39] does anyone want to say anything on the previous minutes? [17:59:57] it was short, so I think we can move on [18:00:08] Maaz topic feedback from release parites [18:00:08] Current Topic: feedback from release parites [18:00:18] bleargh spelling [18:00:31] Maaz? [18:00:33] yeah, chair in training, not going as smooth today :P [18:00:35] lol [18:00:41] no problem nuvolari [18:00:53] I'll stop anytime if you wanna take over [18:00:29] hehe [18:00:57] so who attended release parties? [18:01:02] ok so we had a fun party at the shuttleworth centre [18:01:10] very sweet, yet yummy cake [18:01:17] no no, it's ok maiatoday, I'll pay attention today [18:01:24] photos? blog posts? [18:01:27] I wanted to blog about the pretoria release party, but I haven't got the pics yet [18:01:35] yeah hang on I'll get the link [18:01:51] I'm not sure if we're on for a release party here in durbs [18:02:06] http://my-ubuntu-day.blogspot.com/2012/04/cape-town-precise-pangolin-release.html [18:02:15] I've been trying to keep an eye on the mailing list, but that's about as far as I got [18:02:28] Does anyone have pics for the pretoria release party? [18:02:48] maaz action maiatoday ask for release party pics for pretoria party on mailing list [18:02:48] maiatoday: What? [18:02:58] bleargh [18:03:21] maaz agreed maiatoday ask for release party pics for pretoria party on mailing list [18:03:21] Agreed: maiatoday ask for release party pics for pretoria party on mailing list [18:03:27] maiatoday: I did see a few on a friend's facebook page - I can ask about them [18:03:36] ok [18:03:39] thanks superfly [18:03:52] any other feedback from release parties? [18:04:36] ok [18:04:45] [18:04:58] welcome zeref [18:05:10] herro nuvolari [18:05:12] it was low key but we had quite a few people, the pretoria people had a good turn out they say [18:05:42] hi zeref sign in to the meeting [18:06:07] does anyone want to add anything about the release parties? [18:06:29] nope [18:06:43] ok then [18:06:45] I wanna set the next topic maiatoday [18:06:49] maaz topic ubuntu hours [18:06:49] Current Topic: ubuntu hours [18:06:54] oops sorry [18:06:59] :P sies [18:07:00] Kilos: ? [18:07:11] ok, I'll do the next [18:07:18] your message came through here just as I hit return [18:07:25] I'll hang back next time [18:07:30] zeref, its our monthly ubuntu-za meeting and we need some names [18:07:33] anyone planning an ubuntu hour? [18:07:44] type in maaz I am "name" [18:07:46] What's an ubuntu hour ? [18:07:49] I should communicate with kbmonkey [18:07:53] as he's around now [18:07:56] Banlam, when shall we have one, it's exams now isn't it. [18:08:01] maaz I am Lunga Mthembu [18:08:01] zeref: Sure [18:08:03] but we don't have a formal UH planned [18:08:10] maia, i don't reside in the area any more unfortunately [18:08:24] Kerbero, [18:08:25] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour [18:08:32] mazal ^^ [18:08:37] maiatoday, exams start soon yes, [18:08:41] if not tomorrow [18:08:48] nuvolari, contact william walter he had something to do with the last one there i think [18:08:48] yes it start tomorrow [18:08:56] ok that means people will want to go out for a beer won't they :D [18:09:01] but the kids don't come anyway [18:09:22] so i think we should organise a ubuntu hour or beer evening asap [18:09:24] Kilos: yeah, I will contact him oom [18:09:38] if it wasn't for him there wouldn't be anything going on in durbs :P [18:09:49] ok Kerbero we can talk off line an make one happen [18:09:56] ok [18:10:12] [18:10:29] yo queery sign in [18:10:39] hmmm, anything happeing in Joburg? [18:10:47] good evening Guest21740 [18:10:50] for the benefit of people who haven't had a ubuntu hour, contact a mate that uses ubuntu, meet at a public place [18:11:04] announce ahead of time here or on the mailing list [18:11:09] hang out [18:11:14] maybe take a picture [18:11:43] be open to meeting other ubntu users or future ubuntu users [18:11:58] anyone have anything else they wanna add about ubuntu hours? [18:12:14] since queery and banlam are gone from stellenbosch nothing happens here anymore [18:12:24] now that is on record too [18:12:37] two awesome people [18:12:39] Kerbero: it's up to us [18:12:42] ahhhhh [18:12:44] thanx [18:12:46] yeah to awesome people [18:12:50] :P [18:13:01] Guest21740: change nick + tell maaz your name [18:13:11] Guest21740 wanna tell us about the release party in Pretoria [18:13:29] Also please send me pics to blog [18:13:45] maaz i am queery [18:13:45] queery1985: Done [18:13:58] damn nickserv [18:14:02] lol, regte naam verkieslik [18:14:07] Oh right will do maiatoday [18:14:16] sorry for the late join [18:14:47] how many people at the pretoria release party queery1985? [18:14:51] Ill try to organise an Ubuntu-Hour next month [18:15:00] queery1985, you are forgiven . dont make a habit of it [18:15:20] i joind the party late but when we got there about 15 [18:15:27] oh cool [18:15:46] so it was a success [18:16:05] we had people coming and going in CT but I think around 15, which is good going since it was a public holiday long weekend [18:16:18] [18:16:23] does anyone want to add anything about ubuntu hours? [18:16:26] hi magespawn [18:16:32] hi mageSIGN IN TO MEETING [18:16:36] Howdy [18:16:37] or ask anything about ubuntu hours? [18:16:38] oops [18:16:51] maiatoday: any ubuntu hours planning for joburg? [18:17:01] Mazz I am Greg Eames [18:17:01] hi magespawn sign in [18:17:07] hehe [18:17:08] Maaz I am Greg Eames [18:17:08] magespawn: Yessir [18:17:09] yeah I think queery1985 wants to have one [18:17:18] zeref: I'll organise one next month [18:17:21] Sorry i am late [18:17:29] cool, i'd be interested in helping out :-D [18:17:30] zeref you can help queery1985 :D [18:17:36] awesome [18:17:37] snap hehe [18:17:43] lol [18:17:43] no problem maiatoday, taking it slow tonight :P [18:17:50] er, magespawn [18:17:57] Yup [18:18:54] maaz I am Nicholas [18:18:54] koiosify: Done [18:19:02] shall we move to the next topic? [18:19:07] oh hi koiosify [18:19:16] hi all! [18:19:20] hi koiosify [18:19:24] ok, I'll do it maiatoday!! :P [18:19:27] my turn [18:19:39] * maiatoday sits on her hands [18:19:43] hehe [18:19:44] Maaz: topic certification update [18:19:44] Current Topic: certification update [18:19:48] Yes nuvolari [18:20:15] magespawn, he is concentrating [18:20:18] ok that topic was just finding out how the people who are helping each other work through the certification material were progressing [18:20:23] learning to chair [18:20:27] if someone wants to comment [18:21:02] I think oom Kilos is more active in the certification than me :P [18:21:08] [18:21:14] hello smile [18:21:16] welcome [18:21:17] hi smile [18:21:25] hi! :) [18:21:28] Kilos are you guys managing with the certification stuff [18:21:30] I have not touched in ages [18:21:32] meeting here I understood? :p [18:21:46] smile: yup [18:21:48] maiatoday, whats that? [18:21:54] nuvolari: when? :p [18:22:01] oh ok then it wasn't you [18:22:01] smile: you can identify to maaz by "maaz: I am " [18:22:05] smile, sign in [18:22:18] well I don't know. I have to go in nine minutes :p [18:22:24] do it anyway [18:22:30] can you tell me more about the certification [18:22:38] maaz: I am smile [18:22:38] smile: Alrighty [18:22:39] kbmonkey and some people were going through the Linux certification material [18:22:43] :) [18:22:54] It's the standard LPI certifications right? [18:23:03] oh that [18:23:06] i wanna do it too [18:23:06] yes the LPI [18:23:24] our tutor is kinda busy [18:23:37] Maaz, LPI manual [18:23:37] http://www.linuxcertification.co.za/lpi-study-manual [18:23:50] there is a small yet tenacious group [18:24:15] queery1985: the material is free [18:24:28] you can probably just go through it and ask questions [18:24:33] there was a group [18:24:35] cool [18:24:44] I think with a mailing list and a google groups, not sure [18:24:47] * nuvolari is getting the group info [18:24:54] There is and a wiki [18:24:58] ok cool [18:25:27] http://groups.google.com/group/linux-studies [18:25:51] Maaz: linux-studies [18:25:51] nuvolari: Excuse me? [18:25:55] Maaz: lpi [18:25:55] nuvolari: Sorry... [18:26:11] Maaz i am Hendrik van Wyk [18:26:11] Tonberry: Yessir [18:26:17] Maaz: lpi-group is https://groups.google.com/group/linux-studies [18:26:17] nuvolari: Got it [18:26:46] maaz botsnack [18:26:46] Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well [18:27:01] lol [18:27:05] ha ha [18:27:18] there's some more resources mentioned in the group postings [18:27:42] queery1985, i had a link where you actually register for the lpi certs [18:27:49] will try find it again [18:27:51] ok so open invite, people who want to do LPI join the group and ask questions [18:28:19] ye, it used to be a bit more active [18:28:59] oh cool can oom Kilos please compile the info in a email and send it to the group? pweees [18:29:09] queery1985, we have a channel as well [18:29:16] hmmm [18:29:17] anything else on the certification? [18:29:21] #linux-studies [18:29:37] byee :) [18:29:37] Maybe if we remind peoppe i tend to forget [18:29:38] on freenode? [18:29:45] we have all been slack maiatoday sorry [18:29:57] yip queery1985 [18:31:14] did everyone see the mail with the .ics file for the meetings? [18:31:30] can I continue to the last topic? [18:31:32] I was waiting to announce that [18:31:36] Yeah , but I don't know how to import it nuvolari [18:31:50] ek okie [18:32:00] Wikus just asked for instructions on how to import it, I have responded to the mailing list. [18:32:10] Thanx octoquad [18:32:20] no prob [18:32:22] google calendar maak dit easypeasy :P ek weet nie hoe Thunderbird werk nie [18:32:46] ah, thanks octoquad [18:32:52] yeah, google just picks it up and asks you what you want to do [18:32:55] we had an ubuntu-za calendar before if I remember [18:33:03] You can add google calender straight to thunder bird [18:33:10] it exists [18:33:22] ok, advancing to last topic [18:33:24] go nuvolari [18:33:34] i used to handle it, and it had a repeating thing on it but im not getting reminders anymore [18:33:46] Maaz: topic feedback on cd's [18:33:46] Current Topic: feedback on cd's [18:33:56] the cds are trapped in customs [18:34:02] eish [18:34:04] :O [18:34:04] I spoke to TNT a few days back [18:34:06] y? [18:34:13] we're not smoking anything! [18:34:18] lol [18:34:19] I hope [18:34:31] did he order the CD's cause that might be why they are stuck *TNT* [18:34:36] tnt post. stomme nederlanders. [18:34:49] apparently canonical put (in their eyes) a small invoice on it but the euro exchange rate [18:34:50] haha [18:34:51] lol [18:34:59] * tumbleweed waves [18:35:08] hi tumbleweed [18:35:10] euro is 10.8 today [18:35:10] hi tumbleweed :) welcome [18:35:14] the invoice is 319 rand and if it is over 300 rand it is an expensive parcel and needs to be taxed [18:35:15] its been climbing [18:35:34] so I am happy to pay the tax but I don't know how to make it go forward [18:35:36] blegh :-/ [18:35:40] how many CD's? [18:35:41] I will phone them tomorrow [18:35:46] I don't understand the cd's thing [18:35:47] the parcel is 9kgs [18:35:55] maiatoday: don't they send it back if you don't collect it within x days? [18:35:56] Why are we buying cd's ? [18:36:02] wow, that's quite a bit then [18:36:06] we aren't buying cds, mazal [18:36:07] we're not [18:36:09] Wow thats a few [18:36:14] we are an official loco so we get it free [18:36:17] if peeps want CD's in the durban area, they can ask me [18:36:28] but customs kick up more of a fuss if there's no "value" displayed on items [18:36:45] hmm [18:36:46] yeah but these are branded cds which official locos get [18:36:49] the fact is we're importing something which is worth something [18:36:54] nevermind that we didn't pay for it [18:37:02] customs act like windows users: it can't be free... [18:37:08] hahaha [18:37:09] hehe [18:37:10] lol nuvolari [18:37:11] hahaha [18:37:21] anyway, it's no use arguing, I just want to get them before quetzal is release [18:37:36] can't we say it's for a non-profit? [18:37:51] when I get them I'll divide them up and mail them to the centres again [18:38:01] One of those many "rules" I don't get [18:38:03] octoquad: I did explain that we don't sell them etc etc [18:38:04] how many do you get? [18:38:29] I don't know the exact amount octoquad but as I said the parcel is 9kgs [18:38:30] maiatoday: ah, then what's there problem lol [18:38:45] sorry their problem [18:38:47] I'm not going to take again, as I can't get them distributed here again :-/ [18:38:47] red tape [18:38:56] ok [18:39:00] nuvolari: are you from durbs? [18:39:08] octoquad: ye, ballito [18:39:09] I'll send a list on the mailing list and ask who wants me to send them [18:39:23] cool [18:39:25] I had a list of people, but I don't know if they still want cds [18:39:44] maaz agreed maiatoday will find out on the mailing list who wants cds once they get here [18:39:44] Agreed: maiatoday will find out on the mailing list who wants cds once they get here [18:40:00] I know William is quite active in distributing ubuntu [18:40:05] [18:40:08] and repo's [18:40:26] I am happy to make up a few parcels but I would prefer to send one parcel to a central point in each area [18:40:28] since im traveling all over JHB freestate and pretoria I can also help distribute [18:40:38] that's the end of my story about the cds [18:40:54] thanksfor all the effort maiatoday [18:40:58] ok. any other last-minute topic? [18:41:02] i want cd's and i'm not on the mailinglist [18:41:09] yeah, thanks for your help maiatoday :) [18:41:20] I always give you cds Kerbero :) [18:41:20] I also don't mind distributing any linux distro, will have to be posted though. [18:41:27] :) [18:41:41] you can we set a time limit on sending emails to the list? [18:41:43] I have a qeustion [18:42:06] I think I have asked it before but can't remember the answer , think there was an issue [18:42:13] no problem Squirm, last time I sent a parcel to people, contact me on the mailing list and let me in know what area you can distribute [18:42:37] queery1985: what do you suggest? [18:42:41] maiatoday: eh, not part of the mailing list :P but I'm here most of the time [18:42:43] 11pm [18:42:45] hehe [18:42:55] maiatoday: Mooi River [18:43:08] kind of nowhere, but I'm there [18:43:26] no further topics? [18:43:37] Many people have slow or no internet and Ubuntu needs quite a few additional software and codecs to make it really good. Are we allowed to distribute iso's of Ubuntu that already have the multimedia additions and extra software installed ? [18:43:45] yeah , that one [18:44:11] yeah, I think we're allowed to do that in ZA, not? [18:44:44] Squirm, email me your info if you want me to send cds, I need a postal address and a name [18:44:57] we don't recognise software patents in ZA [18:45:03] (although people do file them) [18:45:05] Cos with 12.04 I came close to 1gig of additional stuff installled , and many people don't have the means to do that [18:45:06] I don't know about any of you guys, but basically doing an upgrade for me was useless using the CD/ISO as it still downloaded > 300MB [18:45:10] We should just make an apt-on-cd with updates and codecs and distribute with the original cd [18:45:15] mazal, you can distribute remastersys dvd's as well with everything [18:45:23] or Kilos idea [18:45:43] i still think canonical should start to send us blank branded cd's [18:45:46] I have a 4mb uncapped, unshaped line. so I don't mind distributing dvds either [18:45:54] then we can write them before distribution [18:45:55] Kerbero: I agree completely [18:46:09] Kerbero: awesome idea! [18:46:13] Kilos, that was what I was thinking [18:46:21] but I am not sure if they will [18:46:21] I have a Web africa account so free repo [18:46:42] Can we get the art work and brand them ourselves? [18:46:46] Kerbero: Canonical might see it as a security issue or perhaps loading linux mint on a Ubuntu CD [18:47:00] yeah [18:47:03] magespawn: Kerbero got quotes, we can brand ourselves but it is super expensive [18:47:11] jip [18:47:23] so we have to pay to give away cd's [18:47:25] interesting [18:47:26] :/ [18:47:35] Kerbero, are you going to sit and write 100 CDs with your PC? [18:47:42] lol [18:47:46] Ican you cover your costs? [18:48:24] maybe we should start a pledge list? [18:48:34] buy maia a coffee [18:48:39] at the ubuntu hour [18:48:46] I've always wanted to set up a toaster, I'm just not in the right area [18:48:56] the thing i most people who already use ubuntu are happy with an iso which they put on a disk themselves [18:48:59] I really think we should just distribute on the fly. Create 5 CD's carry them around with you or stash some in your car and laptop bag and if you meet peeps who are interested, give them a copy. [18:49:08] but people who have never used it like a branded cd [18:49:15] Squirm, maybe at the varsity in pmb [18:49:35] Kilos: that's still 40min away, besides I don't go there often [18:49:40] to pmb that is [18:49:46] ah [18:50:04] but theres nothing in mooiriver except cold [18:50:09] and some farmers [18:50:12] I think for next time I'll promote xubuntu [18:50:19] well, like I'm going there tomorrow, but getting a lift and it's tomorrow evening [18:50:20] And a nice river [18:50:24] maybe burn some disks for people interested around here [18:50:26] magespawn: no [18:50:34] magespawn: you DO NOT want to swim in that rivet [18:50:36] river [18:50:55] Ahh but iis it nice? [18:51:05] is Maaz still recording? [18:51:10] yip [18:51:11] yeah [18:51:11] yes [18:51:16] hehe [18:51:31] magespawn: brown and polluted != nice [18:51:31] we can probably give her the rest of the evening off, nuvolari? [18:51:39] ok cool [18:51:45] Maaz: end meeting