Minutes from Meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - February 2017 Convened at 2017-02-28 18:32:52.264807 by paddatrapper in #ubuntu-za on freenode Minutes ======= [18:32:52] STARTED (paddatrapper) [18:34:35] AGREED: All happy with agenda (paddatrapper) [18:34:47] TOPIC: Review minutes of previous meeting (paddatrapper) [18:36:31] AGREED: All happy with previous minutes (paddatrapper) [18:36:40] TOPIC: Plans for 2017 (paddatrapper) [18:39:12] AGREED: stop tracking tareg's membership application (paddatrapper) [18:40:54] AGREED: rename Plan 2017 to Next Steps (paddatrapper) [18:43:37] AGREED: Move Ubuntu for Hope to events (paddatrapper) [18:45:29] AGREED: nsnzero is willing to help out with Ubuntu for Hope (paddatrapper) [18:47:12] AGREED: paddatrapper to add links to next meeting's agenda for Ubuntu for Hope (paddatrapper) [18:47:43] TOPIC: Events (paddatrapper) [18:49:12] TOPIC: Plans for 2017 (paddatrapper) [18:49:58] AGREED: chesedo to contact kmf and organise a few fb posts (paddatrapper) [18:50:38] TOPIC: Events (paddatrapper) [18:53:59] AGREED: no-one has info on the docker roadshow or rubyfuza (paddatrapper) [18:59:44] AGREED: paddatrapper is attending the free beer sessions CT (paddatrapper) [19:00:28] AGREED: scaleconf - 9-10 March, Johannesburg; devconf - 9 March, Johannesburg; FreeBeerSessions - 2 March, Cape Town/Johannesburg (paddatrapper) [19:01:13] TOPIC: Miscellaneous (paddatrapper) [19:14:50] AGREED: williamk wants to start a documentation project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software (paddatrapper) [19:34:17] AGREED: biweekly mini meeting about the news, positions and maybe education on Wednesdays (paddatrapper) [19:35:35] AGREED: Mini meeting start at 20:30 SAST (paddatrapper) [19:36:31] AGREED: Starting in two weeks (14 March) theblazehen will handle the news (paddatrapper) [19:36:47] TOPIC: Next meeting (paddatrapper) [19:37:43] AGREED: mini meeting 15 March, not 14 march (paddatrapper) [19:37:56] AGREED: Next meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 (paddatrapper) [19:38:03] TOPIC: Elect chairperson for next meeting (paddatrapper) [19:40:05] AGREED: chesedo to chair next meeting (paddatrapper) [19:40:21] ENDED (paddatrapper) Present ======= * Gustav H Meyer (inetpro) * magespawn * williamk * Pieter Engelbrecht (chesedo) * Kilos * Kyle Robbertze (paddatrapper) * Jeandre Le Roux (theblazehen) * Miles Sharpe (Kilos-) * Raoul Snyman (superfly) * nasan zero (nsnzero) Raw Log ======= [18:32:52] Maaz: start meeting about Ubuntu Monthly Meeting - February 2017 [18:32:52] * Maaz gets out his memo-pad and cracks his knuckles [18:33:02] Welcome all and thanks for joining in on our monthly meeting [18:33:10] Our bot maaz does the minutes as usual so please introduce yourself to it using `Maaz: I am ` eg. [18:33:16] Maaz: I am Kyle Robbertze [18:33:16] paddatrapper: Alrighty [18:33:24] Maaz: I am Pieter Engelbrecht [18:33:24] chesedo: Righto [18:33:34] The agenda for today is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170228 [18:33:40] the agenda is short so any last minute addition are welcome [18:33:42] Maaz : nasan zero present [18:33:42] nsnzero: Sorry... [18:33:45] Maaz I am Jeandre Le Roux [18:33:45] theblazehen: Righto [18:34:03] Maaz: i am nasan zero [18:34:03] nsnzero: Sure [18:34:17] Everyone happy with the agenda? [18:34:28] yip [18:34:35] Maaz: agreed All happy with agenda [18:34:35] Agreed: All happy with agenda [18:34:47] Maaz: topic Review minutes of previous meeting [18:34:47] Current Topic: Review minutes of previous meeting [18:34:58] previous meeting minutes is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ZATeam/Meetings/20170124 [18:35:32] All good with the previous minutes? [18:36:17] yes - from myside [18:36:21] seems so yes [18:36:31] Maaz: agreed All happy with previous minutes [18:36:31] Agreed: All happy with previous minutes [18:36:40] Maaz: topic Plans for 2017 [18:36:40] Current Topic: Plans for 2017 [18:36:58] Any updates on tareq, magespawn's and Kapanda's membership? [18:37:39] nope, although I may know where to find tareq now [18:37:45] Maaz I am Miles Sharpe [18:37:45] Kilos-: Righto [18:37:55] chesedo: Haven't seen him [18:37:57] sorry im late guys [18:38:06] no problem [18:38:12] apology accepted Kilos- [18:38:24] i see magespawn's wiki is still blank too [18:38:27] np Kilos- [18:38:39] tareg been offline for months [18:38:39] remove that paddatrapper [18:38:46] ack [18:38:54] Maaz hi [18:38:54] * Maaz waves to Kilos- [18:39:12] Maaz: agreed stop tracking tareg's membership application [18:39:12] Agreed: stop tracking tareg's membership application [18:39:25] Anyone else need help with membership, launchpad ID, etc? [18:39:42] nope... [18:39:46] huh [18:40:04] i am good [18:40:04] Any update on Ubuntu for Hope? [18:40:14] may i propose that we rename this section (Plan 20xx) to Next Steps? [18:40:24] I second that [18:40:38] nsnzero when you applying [18:40:38] as in next steps for new users and establishes ones... [18:40:54] paddatrapper thats your field isnt it [18:40:54] Maaz: agreed rename Plan 2017 to Next Steps [18:40:54] Agreed: rename Plan 2017 to Next Steps [18:40:58] oh no chesedo [18:41:25] applying for Kilos ? [18:41:28] Kilos: what have i done??? [18:41:38] Kilos: what is my field? [18:41:41] Maaz seen superfly [18:41:41] Kilos: superfly was last seen 21 hours, 46 minutes and 42 seconds ago in #ubuntu-za on freenode [2017-02-27 20:54:58 GMT], and has been online on freenode since 2017-02-22 03:09:03 GMT [18:41:48] the ubuntu for hope [18:42:05] someone here was involved [18:42:08] oh... [18:42:10] * paddatrapper learns a new thing everyday :) [18:42:24] we can move it to events? [18:42:43] it was with karl wasnt it [18:42:43] it is an (ongoing) event after all... [18:42:45] If no-one knows who/what, maybe we strike it until someone who knows appears [18:43:00] so much has happened i forget what went where [18:43:02] Yeah or move it to events with Ubuntu education [18:43:04] * chesedo kmf and other Prt guys are involved there [18:43:24] yes [18:43:25] although only kmf has done stuff so far... [18:43:37] Maaz: agreed Move Ubuntu for Hope to events [18:43:37] Agreed: Move Ubuntu for Hope to events [18:43:40] im trying to remember who [18:43:47] i am in the education field i can help out there [18:44:09] Kilos: karl is correct [18:44:18] I work at/attend educational institutions, but we generally use Debian [18:45:20] the initial talks of it was about general PC edu at schools... [18:45:21] ubuntu for hope - can only find a facebook page for it [18:45:29] Maaz: agreed nsnzero is willing to help out with Ubuntu for Hope [18:45:29] Agreed: nsnzero is willing to help out with Ubuntu for Hope [18:45:34] inetpro ping [18:45:36] chesedo you sure it wasnt you? [18:45:36] oh maybe pieter [18:45:37] forget his nick as well [18:45:52] We probably should put more info out about it? Is it on the trello board? [18:46:06] nsnzero: https://ubuntuforhope.org/ [18:46:15] nsnzero teach me not to forget [18:46:18] nsnzero: https://gitlab.com/ubuntuforhope/ubuntuforhope.org [18:46:26] Kilos: i am pieter [18:46:26] chesedo: thanks [18:46:38] hahaha [18:46:47] paddatrapper: good idea and no [18:46:50] sorry [18:47:12] Maaz: agreed paddatrapper to add links to next meeting's agenda for Ubuntu for Hope [18:47:12] Agreed: paddatrapper to add links to next meeting's agenda for Ubuntu for Hope [18:47:36] and trello board * [18:47:43] Maaz: topic Events [18:47:43] Current Topic: Events [18:47:48] good morning everyone [18:47:52] rubyfuza was earlier this month [18:47:54] hi inetpro [18:47:55] Maaz: I am Gustav H Meyer [18:47:55] inetpro: Righto [18:48:04] lo pro [18:48:19] * chesedo will contact kmf as well... maybe we can get a few fb posts and tweets out... [18:48:29] Am I on time again? [18:48:35] inetpro: of course :) [18:48:47] lol [18:48:53] inetpro apologise for being late [18:48:55] i did [18:49:00] paddatrapper: you can add that too ^^ [18:49:01] makes the young ones feel good to say accepted [18:49:03] thanks paddatrapper ;-) [18:49:12] Maaz: topic Plans for 2017 [18:49:12] Current Topic: Plans for 2017 [18:49:24] oops, sorry Oom Kilos [18:49:58] Maaz: agreed chesedo to contact kmf and organise a few fb posts [18:49:58] Agreed: chesedo to contact kmf and organise a few fb posts [18:50:00] inetpro: see now we are starting all over again :P [18:50:08] Sorry my connection is a little slow at the moment [18:50:17] np [18:50:17] hahahaa [18:50:20] Ok, shall we move on? [18:50:22] haha [18:50:22] [18:50:30] * chesedo just using it to tease inetpro [18:50:38] Maaz: topic Events [18:50:38] Current Topic: Events [18:50:51] no answer from server for 2 mins [18:50:57] any feedback from rubyfuza? [18:51:03] im lagging bad guys [18:51:31] hi williamk [18:51:41] hy lag baie hard? [18:52:00] nope, only know of unloadable that might have had for the docker event... [18:52:05] hi williamk [18:52:09] Ok, then the Docker roadshow? [18:52:13] off topic does ubuntu for hope have a letterhead or something similar ? [18:52:26] Hi All [18:52:42] hi there williamk [18:52:51] hi williamk [18:52:54] nsnzero: nope, it is very simple [18:52:56] hi williamk [18:52:57] Maaz: I a William Kinghorn [18:52:57] williamk: *blink* [18:53:17] m [18:53:31] maak reg willie [18:53:35] nsnzero: you might also want to talk with williamk as he is in the know on education too [18:53:59] Maaz: agreed no-one has info on the docker roadshow or rubyfuza [18:53:59] Agreed: no-one has info on the docker roadshow or rubyfuza [18:54:06] paddatrapper: seems that unloadable may have forgot... [18:54:16] Lots happening this month though [18:54:18] me moves closer to williamk [18:54:20] he does the books thi k [18:54:21] thing [18:54:43] scaleconf, devconf and FreeBeerSessions all in the beginning of march [18:54:57] Kilos: still trying [18:55:12] Anyone planning on attending any? [18:55:22] williamk maybe nsnzero can help [18:56:06] all are a bit out of my reach [18:56:22] I'm planning on going to the CT FreeBeerSession [18:56:28] wbb [18:56:29] Should be pretty cool [18:56:30] nsnzero: just joined so don't know what you talking about [18:56:51] freebeer i am guessing since its open source you get the recipe and make it yourself ? [18:57:05] * chesedo rofl [18:57:20] nsnzero: that would be libre beer sessions :) [18:57:30] then the instruments also has to be open source i guess [18:57:36] paddatrapper: I think it was unlaudable who was talking about docker [18:57:44] inetpro: ack [18:58:03] williamk: sorry i am alitle lost also - we chat after the meeting [18:58:37] scaleconf was looking for helpers, but I think they're now sorted [18:59:03] For you beer lovers, in the repos - Brewtarget and qbrew [18:59:44] Maaz: agreed paddatrapper is attending the free beer sessions CT [18:59:44] Agreed: paddatrapper is attending the free beer sessions CT [19:00:28] Maaz: agreed scaleconf - 9-10 March, Johannesburg; devconf - 9 March, Johannesburg; FreeBeerSessions - 2 March, Cape Town/Johannesburg [19:00:28] Agreed: scaleconf - 9-10 March, Johannesburg; devconf - 9 March, Johannesburg; FreeBeerSessions - 2 March, Cape Town/Johannesburg [19:00:37] any other events coming up? [19:01:07] nope [19:01:13] afaik [19:01:13] Maaz: topic Miscellaneous [19:01:13] Current Topic: Miscellaneous [19:01:36] williamk they were talking about education stuff like ubuntu for hope and then you arrived just in time [19:01:48] this may be a topic for nsnzero, williamk: Ubuntu education project [19:01:58] chesedo: any developments after your discussion with superfly yesterday? [19:02:22] re the bots with news etc [19:02:43] yes where are the new bots paddatrapper [19:02:43] inetpro: about trying to split tasks and job listings? [19:02:51] * chesedo almost forgot [19:02:57] you guys are slow you know [19:03:00] Kilos: new bots? I just fix Maaz [19:03:35] Is there a wiki-page/trello item that we can track progress on? [19:03:37] fly rather goes and plays in the snow [19:03:46] * paddatrapper hasn't looked at the trello board lately [19:03:58] Kilos: and sick kids [19:03:59] paddatrapper: may i have a (late) section after this one? [19:04:07] chesedo: cool [19:04:10] Maaz ddg weather [19:04:10] Kilos: Excuse me? [19:04:25] Kilos: next release of ibid [19:04:26] the new ibids man [19:04:28] williamk: what is your book about? [19:05:37] its about supplying education books to needy kids like me [19:06:01] which subject? [19:06:14] and how is it going? [19:06:30] chesedo: Wanting to start Documentation Project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software [19:07:00] Subjects wii [19:07:13] williamk didnt you have some links on the project [19:07:30] I heard a KDE developer talk about an open source set of textbooks they were developing, but I'm struggling to find a link [19:08:12] williamk: if i remember correctly, the issue last time was having a web space to co-ordinate things? [19:08:14] found it: https://www.wikitolearn.org/ [19:08:16] Subjects will be dependate on who wants to write what, and when teachers join [19:08:58] wow, some site that paddatrapper [19:09:04] williamk: similar to the Shuttleworth Foundation's (I think) Maths and Science textbooks from a few years back? [19:09:12] little info here - seems like the DOE likes to change textbooks every year - i have to get new books with the updates -costs a small fortune [19:09:38] Maaz: wikiToLearn is https://www.wikitolearn.org/ [19:09:38] paddatrapper: Got it [19:10:02] Maaz: KDE education project is also https://www.wikitolearn.org/ [19:10:02] paddatrapper: I'll remember that [19:10:06] Something more like http://flossmanuals.net/ [19:10:21] 2 min lag here guys [19:11:10] thutong.doe.gov.za [19:11:43] williamk: will it be for sa schools (or aimed at)? [19:11:48] [19:12:32] nsnzero: that site does not exist [19:12:44] Where we have a book creation colloborative app , and a website where people can download to the finnished books [19:12:53] http://www.thutong.doe.gov.za/ [19:13:23] chesedo: Yes for SA school, but others can adapt to their needs [19:13:47] oh boy, that thing does not even have a dns record for when the www is missing [19:14:26] williamk: so which next step is needed? [19:14:50] Maaz: agreed williamk wants to start a documentation project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software [19:14:50] Agreed: williamk wants to start a documentation project, Not only for FLOSS, but also creating Textbooks for schools, only using FLOSS software [19:15:35] Sorry I missed the meeting, it's in the middle of my morning [19:15:51] morning superfly [19:15:55] np superfly, morning [19:15:58] or are we still in it? [19:16:23] yep [19:16:27] Maaz: I am Raoul Snyman [19:16:27] superfly: Okay [19:16:33] if i have some time i will work on leads to help out williamk [19:16:35] np superfly, you are just in time to further yesterday's discussion... we are almost there [19:16:41] superfly: talking about Ubuntu education projects [19:16:58] alright, chesedo you have the floor [19:17:09] thanks paddatrapper [19:17:51] yesterday superfly shared the structure of their meetings over there and it sparked 3 ideas... [19:18:16] to have a news and/or jobs listings sections? [19:18:53] to divide these meeting sections to peers? [19:19:19] bye zaki [19:19:31] like sub committees to report back ? [19:19:32] like blaze always seems to be in the know on the latest stuff if he would like to share the highlights... [19:19:36] * Kilos pricks ears [19:20:28] chesedo sounds good [19:20:52] and hilton (from sulug) has posted a lot of jobs listing in the past... and then there is also the jobs listings at each's own works that others my find interesting... [19:21:02] chesedo: and the third thing? [19:21:18] DBE has the National Curriculum Statement http://www.education.gov.za/Curriculum/CurriculumAssessmentPolicyStatements(CAPS)/CAPSFET.aspx [19:21:24] paddatrapper: i went blank :D [19:21:34] We have to put that into manuals [19:21:35] chesedo: lol :) [19:22:29] old age [19:22:32] 1. news, 2. jobs and 3. blank [19:22:34] * Kilos feels good [19:22:39] I like the job listings, I'm not sure how the peers idea would work in practice [19:23:01] next time fill in the blank [19:23:27] either point one was two things, or there was another... [19:23:47] news is also good :) [19:24:01] hahaha [19:24:02] and sounds like theblazehen is up to it... [19:24:08] superfly: help [19:24:10] ubuntu 17 beta 1 is released [19:24:36] inetpro: I have no idea, it was chesedo's ideas, I just shared the logs from the most recent AZLoCo meeting,. [19:24:59] chesedo: I also mentioned weekly meetings, but I think that's a bit much for Ubuntu-ZA [19:25:12] paddatrapper: i can try to reach hilton to discuss his input (or find his methods)... [19:25:21] post on the mailing list? [19:25:43] chesedo: Ok, but in principle I'm game [19:25:43] good night all [19:26:11] superfly: things like news and the positions can became stale in a month so we may have to see about that [19:26:21] night magespawn [19:26:46] Maybe they should be plugins/knowledge we add to Maaz? [19:26:53] maybe a mini meeting once a week and a maxi meeting once a month? irrunno [19:27:03] that's a lot of work [19:27:08] could work [19:27:13] paddatrapper: the peers idea is like say has a collection of news (that get shared with him) and some else the positions... [19:27:24] chesedo: ah ok [19:27:43] then they would quickly list them (like events) in the meeting and we move on... [19:28:33] thanks for joining us superfly [19:28:50] theblazehen: are you up for it? [19:28:51] [19:28:53] we know you yanks are rather busy [19:28:57] Ok shall we try it out next month and see how it goes? or try a mini weekly meeting? [19:29:05] chesedo: yeah [19:29:08] wb williamk [19:29:31] someone would have to go through the list of news and reduce it to just the top 5 or so [19:29:34] maybe biweekly first, to test it and keep the load small [19:29:57] inetpro: correct [19:30:10] sounds good, though my attendance in the evening for the next while is going to be spotty [19:30:11] good idea, chesedo [19:30:21] Kilos : still here [19:30:37] :D [19:30:39] so the mini meeting will be about the news, positions and maybe education if we can start it [19:30:54] ? [19:30:55] what day of the week? [19:31:33] I suggest a Wednesday or Monday [19:31:48] i have no idea... guess there is a reason why it is Tuesdays? [19:31:55] Kilos inetpro superfly nsnzero ^^ [19:32:06] tough one [19:32:16] irunno [19:32:22] williamk your input too ^^ [19:32:22] was to accomodate maia [19:32:38] anyday ok with me if i can stay awake [19:32:52] book the meeting and have it with those who can make it [19:32:53] paddatrapper: seems like your call [19:33:05] * chesedo ok with both [19:33:25] Wednesday then? Mondays seem to be a little slow [19:33:30] * theblazehen is good with any day [19:33:37] paddatrapper: +1 [19:33:39] check mailing list as well and see if you can get feedack form some new guys [19:33:52] ya Mondays can be rough [19:33:57] s/form/from [19:34:02] Kilos : start the meet at 7:30 or 8 [19:34:17] Maaz: agreed biweekly mini meeting about the news, positions and maybe education on Wednesdays [19:34:17] Agreed: biweekly mini meeting about the news, positions and maybe education on Wednesdays [19:34:24] guys i am calling it a night - i will catch up tomorrow [19:34:28] good night all [19:34:33] night nsnzero [19:34:39] williamk the family gues prefer 8 or 8.30 [19:34:43] im easy [19:34:57] peeps with kids need family time [19:34:59] nsnzero : do you still want to talk [19:35:00] I'd go with 8:30, to keep it consistant [19:35:16] right [19:35:35] Maaz: agreed Mini meeting start at 20:30 SAST [19:35:35] Agreed: Mini meeting start at 20:30 SAST [19:35:53] 2 weeks time [19:35:58] paddatrapper: and theblazehen to handle the news section [19:36:09] get list feedback [19:36:21] Kilos: right [19:36:31] Maaz: agreed Starting in two weeks (14 March) theblazehen will handle the news [19:36:31] Agreed: Starting in two weeks (14 March) theblazehen will handle the news [19:36:47] Maaz: topic Next meeting [19:36:47] Current Topic: Next meeting [19:37:08] paddatrapper: that would be the 15th (Wednesday) [19:37:14] The next full meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 [19:37:23] chesedo: thanks [19:37:31] +1 [19:37:42] +1 [19:37:43] Maaz: agreed mini meeting 15 March, not 14 march [19:37:43] Agreed: mini meeting 15 March, not 14 march [19:37:52] thanks for attending everyone and well done paddatrapper [19:37:56] Maaz: agreed Next meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 [19:37:56] Agreed: Next meeting is 28 March 2017 @ 20:30 [19:38:03] Maaz: topic Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:38:03] Current Topic: Elect chairperson for next meeting [19:38:04] Thanks all [19:38:25] so we list the mini meetings in the topic as well? [19:38:25] I will probably not be here next month, so who wants to chair? [19:38:37] * chesedo thinks paddatrapper did an excelent job [19:38:43] yip [19:38:52] i will be here if no one else is [19:38:55] you on next meet chesedo [19:39:06] inetpro: you want another wack? [19:39:06] chesedo +1 [19:39:11] +1 for chesedo [19:39:17] haha [19:39:50] my days are packed [19:39:55] lol [19:40:00] np inetpro [19:40:03] and im busy [19:40:05] Maaz: agreed chesedo to chair next meeting [19:40:05] Agreed: chesedo to chair next meeting [19:40:15] im getting like everyone else now [19:40:16] Thanks everyone for coming [19:40:21] Maaz: end meeting